June 9, 2006 - Revision history

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	To: Paul Sheldon <paul.sheldon@vanderbilt.edu>, Alan Tackett <alan.tackett@vanderbilt.edu>		To: Paul Sheldon <paul.sheldon@vanderbilt.edu>, Alan Tackett <alan.tackett@vanderbilt.edu>
	CC: Micah Beck <mbeck@cs.utk.edu>		CC: Micah Beck <mbeck@cs.utk.edu>

	Paul and Alan,		Paul and Alan,
	When we were on our visit to the CFA in Nashville a couple of weeks ago, Alan mentioned that one good		When we were on our visit to the CFA in Nashville a couple of weeks ago, Alan mentioned that one good

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	This appears to be relatively low hanging fruit, need to get this done and get a press release about it.		This appears to be relatively low hanging fruit, need to get this done and get a press release about it.

			Subject: Vandy TV Archive and the LC
			From: Terry Moore <tmoore@cs.utk.edu>
			Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 13:34:49 -0400
			To: Paul Sheldon <paul.sheldon@vanderbilt.edu>, Alan Tackett <alan.tackett@vanderbilt.edu>
			CC: Micah Beck <mbeck@cs.utk.edu>

			Paul and Alan,
			When we were on our visit to the CFA in Nashville a couple of weeks ago, Alan mentioned that one good
			target for your campus L-Store was the Vanderbilt Television News Archive. Well it looks like an opportunity
			has come up to engage with them in a way that would be beneficial to our work on many different fronts.
			Micah was in Washington last week for a meeting the Library of Congress had to discuss their plans for
			storage infrastructure. Representatives of some of the vendors were there, along with a few people
			representing their research partners (e.g. Micah). He met a guy with Information Technology Services at the
			LC named Mike Handy, who happens to be working with the VTNA. Apparently, the VTNA has been digitizing it
			content to mpeg2 and tranferring it in .5TB chunks to the LC.
			(http://staffweb.library.vanderbilt.edu/breeding/reports/2004-02-February-report.html) According to Mike,
			they've heretofore been sending disks via FedEx. But the LC recently got on Internet2 and they naturally
			want to start transferring the VTNA content that way. Obviously, we have the tools to help them do that
			quite effectively. Mike suggested that Micah contact Marshall Breeding at the VTNA. With Mike's help, it
			should be a pretty simple thing to set up a depot at the LC, and with ACCRE's depot infrastructure already in
			place, we should be able to start helping them do their thing pretty quickly.
			The first step seemed to be to let you guys know about the situation so that you could get in contact with
			Breeding. Figuring out what the next step should be, if there is one, seems to require talking to him next.
			It would be great on many different fronts to get this thing going, so let us know what we can do to help.
			We can certainly help close the loop with the LC.
			Cheers,
			Terry

	== Next Meetings ==		== Next Meetings ==

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	about how we want to define our goals for the meeting in more concrete terms. Ideally, we would have		about how we want to define our goals for the meeting in more concrete terms. Ideally, we would have
	the opportunity space mapped out before the trip, but it's also clear that we won't really know what		the opportunity space mapped out before the trip, but it's also clear that we won't really know what

	the opportunity space is until we hit the ground. Finding that out is certainly part of the purpose		the opportunity space is until we hit the ground. Finding that out is certainly part of the purpose
	of the trip. But let me give you some thoughts (in-line below) anyway, cc'ing my colleagues for their		of the trip. But let me give you some thoughts (in-line below) anyway, cc'ing my colleagues for their

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	To: hunter@nevoanetworks.com		To: hunter@nevoanetworks.com
	CC: Paul Sheldon <paul.sheldon@vanderbilt.edu>, Alan Tackett <alan.tackett@vanderbilt.edu>,		CC: Paul Sheldon <paul.sheldon@vanderbilt.edu>, Alan Tackett <alan.tackett@vanderbilt.edu>,
	Micah Beck <mbeck@cs.utk.edu>, Takeo Kofuji <kofuji@usp.br>		Micah Beck <mbeck@cs.utk.edu>, Takeo Kofuji <kofuji@usp.br>
	References: <447DD867.7030708@nevoanetworks.com>		References: <447DD867.7030708@nevoanetworks.com>

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	about how we want to define our goals for the meeting in more concrete terms. Ideally, we would have		about how we want to define our goals for the meeting in more concrete terms. Ideally, we would have
	the opportunity space mapped out before the trip, but it's also clear that we won't really know what		the opportunity space mapped out before the trip, but it's also clear that we won't really know what

	the opportunity space is until we hit the ground. Finding that out is certainly part of the purpose		the opportunity space is until we hit the ground. Finding that out is certainly part of the purpose
	of the trip. But let me give you some thoughts (in-line below) anyway, cc'ing my colleagues for their		of the trip. But let me give you some thoughts (in-line below) anyway, cc'ing my colleagues for their
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	> Terry,		> Terry,
	>		>
	> I'm here with Takeo and we are trying to plan what should be included in ya'lls activities. Here are some ideas and we need your help		> I'm here with Takeo and we are trying to plan what should be included in ya'lls activities. Here are
	> determining which are more in-line with your objectives (which may still be vague):		> some ideas and we need your help determining which are more in-line with your objectives (which may
			> still be vague):
	>		>
	> Type of relationships:		> Type of relationships:
	> institutional - try to set something up with USP (and Vandy? UT? Incubator of the Americas?)		> institutional - try to set something up with USP (and Vandy? UT? Incubator of the Americas?)
	I don't think this would be too useful at this point. This kind of stuff happens in administrator space, and I think we have to have		I don't think this would be too useful at this point. This kind of stuff happens in administrator space,
	activities of more substance going on order to make it worthwhile. Of course we'd be happy to talk with higher-ups at USP, both to help		and I think we have to have activities of more substance going on order to make it worthwhile. Of course
	you guys in any way we can and set the stage for future institutional partnerships. But I think we're a ways out from institutional		we'd be happy to talk with higher-ups at USP, both to help you guys in any way we can and set the stage
	~~relationships at~~ this point.		for future institutional partnerships. But I think we're a ways out from institutional relationships at
			this point.

	> partnership - find brazilian groups who have funding or can apply for collaborative research funding to work with a US counter-part		> partnership - find brazilian groups who have funding or can apply for collaborative research funding
	This seems like the most important thing to focus on. I think we (i.e. the technology provides, US and Brazilian) want to get together		> to work with a US counter-part
	with application groups (research, education, medicine, government) who need LN technology to get their work done, especially where that		This seems like the most important thing to focus on. I think we (i.e. the technology provides, US and
	work involves collaboration with application partners here in the US. Of course the latter isn't required in order to have such a meeting		Brazilian) want to get together with application groups (research, education, medicine, government) who need
	work well for the NVD. If we find such applications groups, then the questions about funding for the effort (both theirs and ours) follow		LN technology to get their work done, especially where that work involves collaboration with application
	naturally. The LBA guy you connected with (http://www.lbaeco.org/lbaeco/data/data_dis.htm) is a perfect example of this. Paul's		partners here in the US. Of course the latter isn't required in order to have such a meeting work well for
	colleague, Sergio Novaes, would be another.		the NVD. If we find such applications groups, then the questions about funding for the effort (both theirs
	Of course we also need to be meeting with technology creators/developers, like Takeo and his group, to talk about coordinating,		and ours) follow naturally. The LBA guy you connected with (http://www.lbaeco.org/lbaeco/data/data_dis.htm)
	combining, or otherwise leveraging R&D efforts. There may be joint funding opportunities here as well.		is a perfect example of this. Paul's colleague, Sergio Novaes, would be another.
	I do have a question about where the RNP fits into all this though. I always think of them as the Brazilian equivalent of Internet2,		Of course we also need to be meeting with technology creators/developers, like Takeo and his group, to
	but they're actually much more of a government agency with real funding to hand out, aren't they? I guess their primary interest is in		talk about coordinating, combining, or otherwise leveraging R&D efforts. There may be joint funding
	getting their network used and making the NVD project a success. But please, correct me if I'm wrong.		opportunities here as well. I do have a question about where the RNP fits into all this though. I always
			think of them as the Brazilian equivalent of Internet2, but they're actually much more of a government agency
			with real funding to hand out, aren't they? I guess their primary interest is in getting their network used
			and making the NVD project a success. But please, correct me if I'm wrong.

	> collaborative - find brazilian groups who just want to use (or maybe contribute to) the resources provided by REDDnet and the NVD		> collaborative - find brazilian groups who just want to use (or maybe contribute to) the resources
	> in order to improve their operations some other category - that would be determined by your objectives		> provided by REDDnet and the NVD in order to improve their operations some other category - that would be
			> determined by your objectives
	>		>
	This could be helpful, but I'm inclined to think that, at this point, the driving factor would be the applications/activities that we		This could be helpful, but I'm inclined to think that, at this point, the driving factor would be the
	want to carry out. Once we have those things going, people will have a much more substantial reason to start participating, using our		applications/activities that we want to carry out. Once we have those things going, people will have a much
	resources and bringing in their own.		more substantial reason to start participating, using our resources and bringing in their own.

	> thanks,		> thanks,
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	Cheers,		Cheers,
	Terry		Terry

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	He and Takeo Kafuji will mostly put agenda together. We should encourage them to put up a draft for us in the next couple of weeks, then revise. Most important thing to focus on was getting together with application groups who need LN technology to get their work done.		He and Takeo Kafuji will mostly put agenda together. We should encourage them to put up a draft for us in the next couple of weeks, then revise. Most important thing to focus on was getting together with application groups who need LN technology to get their work done.

	~~<tt>~~		-------- Original Message --------
			Subject: Re: vague areas
	-------- Original Message --------		Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:02:42 -0400
	Subject: Re: vague areas		From: Terry Moore <tmoore@cs.utk.edu>
	Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:02:42 -0400		To: hunter@nevoanetworks.com
	From: Terry Moore <tmoore@cs.utk.edu>		CC: Paul Sheldon <paul.sheldon@vanderbilt.edu>, Alan Tackett <alan.tackett@vanderbilt.edu>,
	To: hunter@nevoanetworks.com		Micah Beck <mbeck@cs.utk.edu>, Takeo Kofuji <kofuji@usp.br>
	CC: Paul Sheldon <paul.sheldon@vanderbilt.edu>, Alan Tackett <alan.tackett@vanderbilt.edu>, Micah Beck <mbeck@cs.utk.edu>, Takeo Kofuji <kofuji@usp.br>		References: <447DD867.7030708@nevoanetworks.com>
	References: <447DD867.7030708@nevoanetworks.com>

	Hunter,		Hunter,
	In general I think that what has to happen now, in order to answer your question effectively, is a conference call (maybe a couple) where we (the US partners) talk with each other, and also with you, about how we want to define our goals for the meeting in more concrete terms. Ideally, we would have the opportunity space mapped out before the trip, but it's also clear that we won't really know what the opportunity space is until we hit the ground. Finding that out is certainly part of the purpose of the trip. But let me give you some thoughts (in-line below) anyway, cc'ing my colleagues for their input in the process:		In general I think that what has to happen now, in order to answer your question effectively, is a
			conference call (maybe a couple) where we (the US partners) talk with each other, and also with you,
			about how we want to define our goals for the meeting in more concrete terms. Ideally, we would have
			the opportunity space mapped out before the trip, but it's also clear that we won't really know what
			the opportunity space is until we hit the ground. Finding that out is certainly part of the purpose
			of the trip. But let me give you some thoughts (in-line below) anyway, cc'ing my colleagues for their
			input in the process:

	Hunter Hagewood wrote:		Hunter Hagewood wrote:

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	-------- Original Message --------		-------- Original Message --------
	Subject: Re: vague areas		Subject: Re: vague areas
	Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:02:42 -0400		Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:02:42 -0400
	From: Terry Moore <tmoore@cs.utk.edu>		From: Terry Moore <tmoore@cs.utk.edu>
	To: hunter@nevoanetworks.com		To: hunter@nevoanetworks.com
	CC: Paul Sheldon <paul.sheldon@vanderbilt.edu>, Alan Tackett <alan.tackett@vanderbilt.edu>, Micah Beck <mbeck@cs.utk.edu>, Takeo Kofuji <kofuji@usp.br>		CC: Paul Sheldon <paul.sheldon@vanderbilt.edu>, Alan Tackett <alan.tackett@vanderbilt.edu>, Micah Beck <mbeck@cs.utk.edu>, Takeo Kofuji <kofuji@usp.br>
	References: <447DD867.7030708@nevoanetworks.com>		References: <447DD867.7030708@nevoanetworks.com>

	Hunter,		Hunter,
	In general I think that what has to happen now, in order to answer your question effectively, is a conference call (maybe a couple)		In general I think that what has to happen now, in order to answer your question effectively, is a conference call (maybe a couple) where we (the US partners) talk with each other, and also with you, about how we want to define our goals for the meeting in more concrete terms. Ideally, we would have the opportunity space mapped out before the trip, but it's also clear that we won't really know what the opportunity space is until we hit the ground. Finding that out is certainly part of the purpose of the trip. But let me give you some thoughts (in-line below) anyway, cc'ing my colleagues for their input in the process:
	where we (the US partners) talk with each other, and also with you, about how we want to define our goals for the meeting in more
	concrete terms. Ideally, we would have the opportunity space mapped out before the trip, but it's also clear that we won't really know
	what the opportunity space is until we hit the ground. Finding that out is certainly part of the purpose of the trip. But let me give
	you some thoughts (in-line below) anyway, cc'ing my colleagues for their input in the process:

	Hunter Hagewood wrote:		Hunter Hagewood wrote:

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	He and Takeo Kafuji will mostly put agenda together. We should encourage them to put up a draft for us in the next couple of weeks, then revise. Most important thing to focus on was getting together with application groups who need LN technology to get their work done.		He and Takeo Kafuji will mostly put agenda together. We should encourage them to put up a draft for us in the next couple of weeks, then revise. Most important thing to focus on was getting together with application groups who need LN technology to get their work done.

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	Cheers,		Cheers,
	Terry		Terry

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	[[http://mimir.accre.vanderbilt.edu/cgi-bin/public/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=78 Hunters recent presentation to RNP (in Portuguese)]] -- Interoperability, virtualization of storage access		[http://mimir.accre.vanderbilt.edu/cgi-bin/public/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=78 Hunters recent presentation to RNP (in Portuguese)] -- Interoperability, virtualization of storage access

	He and Takeo Kafuji will mostly put agenda together. We should encourage them to put up a draft for us in the next couple of weeks, then revise. Most important thing to focus on was getting together with application groups who need LN technology to get their work done.		He and Takeo Kafuji will mostly put agenda together. We should encourage them to put up a draft for us in the next couple of weeks, then revise. Most important thing to focus on was getting together with application groups who need LN technology to get their work done.

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	~~====~~ June 23 at 10:30 EST / 9:30 Central time. ~~====~~		<b> June 23 at 10:30 EST / 9:30 Central time. </b>

	* Discuss Alan's List of stuff for SC06.		* Discuss Alan's List of stuff for SC06.

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	> Hunter Hagewood (+)		> Hunter Hagewood (+)

	That's all I've got for right now.		That's all I've got for right now.