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Sheldonp: /* Some Notes on the call */

2007-02-16T15:53:57Z

Some Notes on the call

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	**Terry: indefinite allocation is a promise that no system can keep, so the question really is what is the '''requirement for permanance?'''		**Terry: indefinite allocation is a promise that no system can keep, so the question really is what is the '''requirement for permanance?'''
	**Terry: PR is using REDDnet as a storage dist network. He has his own archive. He just wants to not have to be constantly re-uploading the stuff he is trying to serve.		**Terry: PR is using REDDnet as a storage dist network. He has his own archive. He just wants to not have to be constantly re-uploading the stuff he is trying to serve.
	**Micah: maybe the solution is to have dedicated servers on REDDnet for this application, then use the rest for really serving the data, but		**Micah: maybe the solution is to have dedicated servers on REDDnet for this application, then use the rest for really serving the data, but this other storage would be transitory but could then benefit from the performance that gives you.
	this other storage would be transitory but could then benefit from the performance that gives you.		**Alan: and a mix of storage types (some "archive" and some transitory) also allows us to adapt to usage patterns and demands in the background, automatically.
	**Alan: and a mix of storage types (some "archive" and some transitory) also allows us to adapt to usage patterns and demands in the		**PR: I got a request from Jim Cambell for a couple of powerpoint slides for a presentation they made to USGS. Apparently the director of USGS was quite interested in this and it stopped the presentation apparently. We are therefore on the radar of the USGS directorship! A very postive sign.
	background, automatically.
	**PR: I got a request from Jim Cambell for a couple of powerpoint slides for a presentation they made to USGS. Apparently the director of
	USGS was quite interested in this and it stopped the presentation apparently. We are therefore on the radar of the USGS directorship! A very postive sign.

	*What is the status of Lors-View?		*What is the status of Lors-View?

Sheldonp at 15:51, 16 February 2007

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 == Attending ==
-* Larry Dawson, Santi de Ledesma, Dan Engh, Paul Sheldon, Alan Tackett (Vanderbilt)
+* Larry Dawson, Santi de Ledesma, Bobby Brown, Paul Sheldon, Alan Tackett (Vanderbilt)
 * Hunter Hagewood (Nevoa)
 * Micah Beck, Terry Moore (UTK)
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 ==Some Notes on the call==

Sheldonp at 15:02, 16 February 2007

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	* Hunter Hagewood (Nevoa)		* Hunter Hagewood (Nevoa)
	* Micah Beck, Terry Moore (UTK)		* Micah Beck, Terry Moore (UTK)
	* P.R. Blackwell~~, Mike Coffee~~, Diana Gunter~~, Shane Jenson~~ (SFAU)		* P.R. Blackwell, Diana Gunter (SFAU)
	* Martin Swany (UDel)		* Martin Swany (UDel)

Terry: /* Agenda for today's call */

2007-02-15T21:58:42Z

Agenda for today's call

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	**Demo of L-Root?		**Demo of L-Root?
	**L-Store and SRM? dCache?		**L-Store and SRM? dCache?
			** How interested is the OSG in other application areas, e.g. TSI? (Terry)

	== Other Potential Agenda Items ==		== Other Potential Agenda Items ==

Terry: /* Agenda for today's call */

2007-02-15T21:54:37Z

Agenda for today's call

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	*'''Demo for AmericaView/USGS (Washington, DC; March 6-7; Terry and PR atteding) : Software and operational issues'''		*'''Demo for AmericaView/USGS (Washington, DC; March 6-7; Terry and PR atteding) : Software and operational issues'''
	**Status of the GloViz client adapted for L-Store; USGS interest (PR)		**Status of the GloViz client adapted for L-Store; USGS interest (PR)
	**NullPointerException on download. Download seems to complete successfully, anyway. (May be fixed ~~by Friday~~.)		**NullPointerException on download. Download seems to complete successfully, anyway. (May be fixed soon.)
	**Performance: 150Mb/sec upload (1G file, 10Meg Block size, 16 Threads) 70Mb/sec download (1G file, 10Meg Blocksize, 16 Threads) In practice, this translates to 1:30 minute download time using L-Store vs 2:00 minute download using conventional file transfer. Needs to be much faster for the demo! What can we do to improve performance?		**Performance: 150Mb/sec upload (1G file, 10Meg Block size, 16 Threads) 70Mb/sec download (1G file, 10Meg Blocksize, 16 Threads) In practice, this translates to 1:30 minute download time using L-Store vs 2:00 minute download using conventional file transfer. Needs to be much faster for the demo! What can we do to improve performance?
	**Can-we/How-to specify depots using the L-Store API.		**Can-we/How-to specify depots using the L-Store API.

Terry: /* Agenda for today's call */

2007-02-15T21:45:37Z

Agenda for today's call

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	==Agenda for today's call==		==Agenda for today's call==
	*'''Demo for AmericaView/USGS (Washington, DC; March 6-7; Terry and PR atteding) : Software and operational issues'''		*'''Demo for AmericaView/USGS (Washington, DC; March 6-7; Terry and PR atteding) : Software and operational issues'''
	**Status of the GloViz client adapted for L-Store		**Status of the GloViz client adapted for L-Store; USGS interest (PR)
	**NullPointerException on download. Download seems to complete successfully, anyway. (May be fixed by Friday.)		**NullPointerException on download. Download seems to complete successfully, anyway. (May be fixed by Friday.)
	**Performance: 150Mb/sec upload (1G file, 10Meg Block size, 16 Threads) 70Mb/sec download (1G file, 10Meg Blocksize, 16 Threads) In practice, this translates to 1:30 minute download time using L-Store vs 2:00 minute download using conventional file transfer. Needs to be much faster for the demo! What can we do to improve performance?		**Performance: 150Mb/sec upload (1G file, 10Meg Block size, 16 Threads) 70Mb/sec download (1G file, 10Meg Blocksize, 16 Threads) In practice, this translates to 1:30 minute download time using L-Store vs 2:00 minute download using conventional file transfer. Needs to be much faster for the demo! What can we do to improve performance?
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	**Update on status of LoRSview integration with L-Store -- Is it looking plausible or shall we start working on plan B?		**Update on status of LoRSview integration with L-Store -- Is it looking plausible or shall we start working on plan B?
	*'''Preparation for the OSG All Hands meeting - San Diego; March 5-8; Paul, Dan, Bobby, and Kevin attending'''		*'''Preparation for the OSG All Hands meeting - San Diego; March 5-8; Paul, Dan, Bobby, and Kevin attending'''
	**Interaction/cooperation between Ultralight and Phoebus -- What are the options and oppportunities?		**Interaction/cooperation between Ultralight and Phoebus -- What are the options and oppportunities? (Martin)
	**Demo of L-Root?		**Demo of L-Root?
	**L-Store and SRM? dCache?		**L-Store and SRM? dCache?

Terry: /* Other Agenda Items */

2007-02-15T20:56:04Z

Other Agenda Items

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	**L-Store and SRM? dCache?		**L-Store and SRM? dCache?

	== Other Agenda Items ==		== Other Potential Agenda Items ==

	=== Application Groups ===		=== Application Groups ===

Terry: /* Events, Education, Outreach */

2007-02-15T20:55:29Z

Events, Education, Outreach

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	* List of upcoming events this Spring that we know about or that we're planning for. [http://www.reddnet.org/mwiki/index.php/REDDnet_at_Work_Page#Future_.28including_those_under_consideration.29 More details] about what's planned are on the "at work" page		* List of upcoming events this Spring that we know about or that we're planning for. [http://www.reddnet.org/mwiki/index.php/REDDnet_at_Work_Page#Future_.28including_those_under_consideration.29 More details] about what's planned are on the "at work" page
	**[http://cms.cern.ch/iCMS/ CMS Week] -- February 26 - March 2, 2007 at CERN. -- Is anyone we know going to this?		**[http://cms.cern.ch/iCMS/ CMS Week] -- February 26 - March 2, 2007 at CERN. -- Is anyone we know going to this?
	**[https://indico.fnal.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=468 OSG Consortium Meeting] ~~--- March 5-8, 2007 at UCSD~~		**[https://indico.fnal.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=468 OSG Consortium Meeting]
	*** Who will be going to this? Paul, Dan, Bobby?
	*** The [https://indico.fnal.gov/conferenceTimeTable.py?confId=468 agenda] for this seems pretty closed. Will there be an opportunity to do things.
	**[http://www.americaview.org/ AmericaView Annual Winter Meeting]-- March 5&6, Downtown Washington DC and at USGS Headquarters.		**[http://www.americaview.org/ AmericaView Annual Winter Meeting]-- March 5&6, Downtown Washington DC and at USGS Headquarters.
	*** PR and Terry are on the agenda
	*** Side meeting with interested parties
	*** May be a NDIIPP PIs meeting at the same time, so may be able to make connections between groups
	**[http://events.internet2.edu/2007/spring-mm/ Internet2 Spring Meeting], Apr23-25, Crystal City Marriott, Arlington, VA		**[http://events.internet2.edu/2007/spring-mm/ Internet2 Spring Meeting], Apr23-25, Crystal City Marriott, Arlington, VA
	*** We have submitted proposals for a regular track session and a side meeting.		*** We have submitted proposals for a regular track session and a side meeting.
	*** Expectation is that we'll be accepted for both.		*** Expectation is that we'll be accepted for both.
			*** Some of our Czech collaborators (e.g. Lukas) are planning to attend.

	== Action Items from December call ==		== Action Items from December call ==

Terry: /* Agenda for today's call */

2007-02-15T20:53:27Z

Agenda for today's call

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	**Demo of L-Root?		**Demo of L-Root?
	**L-Store and SRM? dCache?		**L-Store and SRM? dCache?
	*

	== Other Agenda Items ==		== Other Agenda Items ==

Terry: /* Other Agenda Items */

2007-02-15T20:53:10Z

Other Agenda Items

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	=== Application Groups ===		=== Application Groups ===
	* Geospatial		* Geospatial
	* CryoElectron Microscopy~~: Anything new?~~		* CryoElectron Microscopy
	* CMS Particle Physics		* CMS Particle Physics
	* Astrophysics?		* Astrophysics

	=== Deployment and Operations ===		=== Deployment and Operations ===