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Terry: /* Some Notes on the call */

2006-12-19T20:25:01Z

Some Notes on the call

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	*Micah will recover and put on line the old IBP spec or, if that can't be located, do what he can to replace it.		*Micah will recover and put on line the old IBP spec or, if that can't be located, do what he can to replace it.
	==Some Notes on the call==		==Some Notes on the call==
	*The SFA group discussed the fact that they've set up a server and they talked with Alan and ~~Sante~~ on how to take the next steps.		*The SFA group discussed the fact that they've set up a server and they talked with Alan and Santi on how to take the next steps. Santi and Diana are going to talk by phone to get this going.
	*Discussion of software specifications for LN/REDDnet sofware		*Discussion of software specifications for LN/REDDnet sofware
	**We talked about the need to have specs for various interfaces so that different implementations can retain interoperability and people can be confident that what build on won't change out from under them.		**We talked about the need to have specs for various interfaces so that different implementations can retain interoperability and people can be confident that what build on won't change out from under them.

Terry: /* Attending */

2006-12-19T20:24:04Z

Attending

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	* Hunter Hagewood (Nevoa)		* Hunter Hagewood (Nevoa)
	* Micah Beck, Terry Moore (UTK)		* Micah Beck, Terry Moore (UTK)
	* Dan Engh, Paul Sheldon, Alan Tackett (VU)		* Dan Engh, Paul Sheldon, Alan Tackett, Santiago de Ledesma (VU)
	* Mike Coffee, Diana Gunter, Shane Jenson		* Mike Coffee, Diana Gunter, Shane Jenson

Terry: /* Some Notes */

2006-12-19T20:21:13Z

Some Notes

Terry: /* Some Notes */

2006-12-19T20:09:43Z

Some Notes

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	**Conclusions:		**Conclusions:
	***Alan and the ACCRE group want to get libxio replaced as quickly as possible. So the compromise process is a) put the rough spec they will create to guide their reimplementation on-line, b) implement a new version of libxio, c) document the code d) go back to the rough spec and modify it in the light of the new codes/comments. The idea is that the spec that results at stage d) will be our initial cut at the community spec. and we'll work toward and agreed upon a community spec.		***Alan and the ACCRE group want to get libxio replaced as quickly as possible. So the compromise process is a) put the rough spec they will create to guide their reimplementation on-line, b) implement a new version of libxio, c) document the code d) go back to the rough spec and modify it in the light of the new codes/comments. The idea is that the spec that results at stage d) will be our initial cut at the community spec. and we'll work toward and agreed upon a community spec.
	***		***A rough IBP spec which was once done has since been lost in the shuffle. Micah is going to try to recover that spec and put it on-line. If it can't be recovered, he'll see what he can do, working with his students, to develop something similar.
			***Terry's going to get the LN wiki up and running as the place that can hold all this specification work.
	*We agreed that we wouldn't try to go for a demo at TRIDENT 2007. We're overloaded already.		*We agreed that we wouldn't try to go for a demo at TRIDENT 2007. We're overloaded already.
			*Dan Engh described what he's been doing with ROOTd and LN tools
	*		*

Terry: /* Some Notes */

2006-12-19T19:37:31Z

Some Notes

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	*Micah will recover and put on line the old IBP spec or, if that can't be located, do what he can to replace it.		*Micah will recover and put on line the old IBP spec or, if that can't be located, do what he can to replace it.
	==Some Notes==		==Some Notes==
			*Discussion of software specifications for LN/REDDnet sofware
			**We talked about the need to have specs for various interfaces so that different implementations can retain interoperability and people can be confident that what build on won't change out from under them.
			**It's problematic because we have a schedule that we need to meet and achieving agreement on specifications can be time consuming.
			**The most immediate challenge is libxio, which is lacking in various important respects, such as the ability to deal with the parity mappings that LStore does and the lack of caching.
			**Parallel disucssion of need for (and current lack of) documentation and adequate comments of much of the LN code.
			**Conclusions:
			***Alan and the ACCRE group want to get libxio replaced as quickly as possible. So the compromise process is a) put the rough spec they will create to guide their reimplementation on-line, b) implement a new version of libxio, c) document the code d) go back to the rough spec and modify it in the light of the new codes/comments. The idea is that the spec that results at stage d) will be our initial cut at the community spec. and we'll work toward and agreed upon a community spec.
			***

			*We agreed that we wouldn't try to go for a demo at TRIDENT 2007. We're overloaded already.
			*

Terry at 19:14, 19 December 2006

2006-12-19T19:14:51Z

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	*Alan will share the rough spec he's going to develop for libxio before he implements		*Alan will share the rough spec he's going to develop for libxio before he implements
	*Micah will recover and put on line the old IBP spec or, if that can't be located, do what he can to replace it.		*Micah will recover and put on line the old IBP spec or, if that can't be located, do what he can to replace it.
			==Some Notes==

Terry: /* Action Items */

2006-12-19T19:14:18Z

Action Items

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	== Action Items ==		== Action Items ==
	*Terry will get the LN wiki up and going (http://www.logisticalnetworking.org)		*Terry will get the LN wiki up and going (http://www.logisticalnetworking.org)
			*Alan will share the rough spec he's going to develop for libxio before he implements
			*Micah will recover and put on line the old IBP spec or, if that can't be located, do what he can to replace it.

Terry: /* Action Items */

2006-12-19T19:09:26Z

Action Items

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	== Action Items ==		== Action Items ==
			*Terry will get the LN wiki up and going (http://www.logisticalnetworking.org)

Terry at 19:02, 19 December 2006

2006-12-19T19:02:21Z

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	== Attending ==		== Attending ==
	* Hagewood (Nevoa)		* Hunter Hagewood (Nevoa)
	* Beck, Moore (UTK)		* Micah Beck, Terry Moore (UTK)
	* Engh, Sheldon, Tackett (VU)		* Dan Engh, Paul Sheldon, Alan Tackett (VU)
	* ~~Blackwell~~, ~~... may attend late~~		* Mike Coffee, Diana Gunter, Shane Jenson
	* ...

	== Current Agenda ==		== Current Agenda ==

Terry: /* Coordinates */

2006-12-19T18:39:15Z

Coordinates

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	== Coordinates ==		== Coordinates ==
	Time: 10:30EST/9:30CST		*Time: 10:30EST/9:30CST
	Conference #:510-665-5437 Meeting ID:7333		*Conference #:510-665-5437 Meeting ID:7333

	== Attending ==		== Attending ==
	* Hagewood (Nevoa)		* Hagewood (Nevoa)

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	*Alan will share the rough spec he's going to develop for libxio before he implements		*Alan will share the rough spec he's going to develop for libxio before he implements
	*Micah will recover and put on line the old IBP spec or, if that can't be located, do what he can to replace it.		*Micah will recover and put on line the old IBP spec or, if that can't be located, do what he can to replace it.
	==Some Notes==		==Some Notes on the call==
			*The SFA group discussed the fact that they've set up a server and they talked with Alan and Sante on how to take the next steps.
	*Discussion of software specifications for LN/REDDnet sofware		*Discussion of software specifications for LN/REDDnet sofware
	**We talked about the need to have specs for various interfaces so that different implementations can retain interoperability and people can be confident that what build on won't change out from under them.		**We talked about the need to have specs for various interfaces so that different implementations can retain interoperability and people can be confident that what build on won't change out from under them.
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	***Alan and the ACCRE group want to get libxio replaced as quickly as possible. So the compromise process is a) put the rough spec they will create to guide their reimplementation on-line, b) implement a new version of libxio, c) document the code d) go back to the rough spec and modify it in the light of the new codes/comments. The idea is that the spec that results at stage d) will be our initial cut at the community spec. and we'll work toward and agreed upon a community spec.		***Alan and the ACCRE group want to get libxio replaced as quickly as possible. So the compromise process is a) put the rough spec they will create to guide their reimplementation on-line, b) implement a new version of libxio, c) document the code d) go back to the rough spec and modify it in the light of the new codes/comments. The idea is that the spec that results at stage d) will be our initial cut at the community spec. and we'll work toward and agreed upon a community spec.
	***A rough IBP spec which was once done has since been lost in the shuffle. Micah is going to try to recover that spec and put it on-line. If it can't be recovered, he'll see what he can do, working with his students, to develop something similar.		***A rough IBP spec which was once done has since been lost in the shuffle. Micah is going to try to recover that spec and put it on-line. If it can't be recovered, he'll see what he can do, working with his students, to develop something similar.
	***Terry's going to get the LN wiki up and running as the place that can hold all this specification work.		***Terry's going to get the LN wiki up and running during the holidays as the place that can hold all this specification work.
	*We agreed that we wouldn't try to go for a demo at TRIDENT 2007. We're overloaded already.		*We agreed that we wouldn't try to go for a demo at TRIDENT 2007. We're overloaded already.
	*Dan Engh described what he's been doing with ROOTd and LN tools		*Dan Engh described what he's been doing with ROOTd and LN tools
	*		*Alan briefly described what they're doing with Alan Hart. The goal is to have something he can evaluate by the end of January.